Tai Zen: This is pretty cool too but we’re doing this in front of a live audience. So first of all, can you share your background with the audience, so that they know where how did you first. So now, first of all, you are young. How old are you?
Max: So back in 2011 on is when I first kind of discovered Bitcoin, I was on all these online forums about no computer security software development stuff like that and a big part of these forums is that payments were all done in the appointment because people might be more secretive at that time.
So I saw some cool things that one embody and purchase my first Bitcoin and then the rest is history.
Tai Zen: So well the audience our eyes are always got curious like what age were you in how much was the first Bitcoin that you purchased banking?
Max: Which was like seventh grade or so. And the first decline was like $5
Tai Zen: Okay quick lesson here, if you have kids running mate with it that’s in the seventh grade and they know how to buy Bitcoins you get to you need to really get to know those kids. Okay, someday they might be here.
Okay, so you discovered bitcoins when you were in the seventh grade, 13 years old you got your first Bitcoin. How much was it back then?
Tai Zen: Yep okay and then how did the rest of you?
Alex: So, Max has been doing all more trading or a little more trading like 1 year ago and stuff like that and I got interested in the programming side of it so I picked up solidity. I haven’t really done be creating anything like that.
Tai Zen: Okay so I’ll share with the audience what solidity is?
Alex: So if there’s a virtual machine on it it’s basically a computer that can really their life, but basically it’s a big distributed computer that can run any code that you want it to, so arbitrary code and solidity is the programming language that they chose to create for that.
So it’s a pretty interesting language you can do some cool stuff with it and it’s got some interesting properties that the whole immutability part of these contracts was.
People can pay and you either and you can do all sorts of interesting stuff like a store. Our crowd sale for our ICO is for gaudiest is all a smart contract so whenever someone deposits either it automatically gives them the tokens and best bonuses and everything like that.
Tai Zen: Okay so that speed of solidity it’s interesting that you brought that up because back in 2014 when nobody was talking about trading Cryptocurrencies or anything like that we interview of a really young kid that was also 19.
Well, the skinny nerdy kid goes by Byron Wien, right? So back in was talking about a project called Ethereum, right? And that was the first time that we actually heard about so will it be and stuff like that smart contracts.
So it’s interesting that you fast forward 4 years later back in and didn’t. Nobody knew what it was and now 4 years later. We’re talking too much another 19 years old rocket talk about solidity and doom again.
Alex: So we were all together really knew each other and we decided that basically what happened was we saw these projects a lot of them were like final point and 9 months and months ago these ones that were basically utilizing unused resources so that case of historic gold was around to us in power and they were really successful and ones.
That were interesting cool projects that I can have an application I think we’re the ones that were you using these resources.
Tai Zen: But you were in college.
Max: We’re computer science students.
Tai Zen: Ok, what college do you know it’s a great university? So for the people that are listening that’s outside the US that’s like what they’re near…
Max: Near Washington DC.
Tai Zen: We don’t have an international audience and then so you were just computer, science students. I’m studying computer science becoming software engineers and stuff. What advantages did you say that you got interesting?
Alex: Well we were working on a different project together last night. We’re doing a project to basic with a lot of people to pick out fitness plans and meal plans that suited them. And so there’s some cool machine learning stuff and before we even publish it. We are getting malicious traffic so we decided we’d buy Cloudflare.
Tai Zen: These science students traitors out here. What’s about malicious traffic?
Alex: They can get out of service attacks or in our case there’s a lot of stuff that was just people trying to exploit the site and still looking for vulnerabilities that are common with most websites – that don’t have a Web Application Firewall. Something sitting in front of it looking at analyzing all the traffic.
David Fong: All right so you build a site we help the website business stuff and even before you could launch it you’ve found that.
Alex: Where people look doing these sort of they’re just standing there looking for recently registered domains that try to steal money from us.
David Fong: I was totally from you trying to bring down your site trying to make it they go with other people exactly than access.
Tai Zen: So they’re trying to hack your website?
Alex: Essentially and some at that point you purchase the service have something like Cloudflare or something similar and what they do is they sit between your site and the rest of the internet and then they watch every bit of traffic before so all the people like every day they want access to your site they watch all of that before it gets there.
David Fong: Okay so typically when you run into that situation and you’re on your business that gets attacked you will look for a product like Cloudflare to help with that kind of attack, what do they need?
Alex: And so they made they sit between you and the open Internet.
Tai Zen: It’s also like Cloudflare like a shield for your website. But okay so real quickly like from our audience perspective they’re gonna want to know like why would somebody just randomly attack your website for you it’s a fitness website you just open it up.
Alex: Just a lot of mean people in the world.
Tai Zen: Financial incentives for doing that or they just doing.
Alex: So a lot of people the smaller attacks you know the ones that don’t really do much damage you have reasonably server infrastructure set up. Those are you normally just people doing it for fun because they can if it’s one of the bigger ones it’s probably because they want to hold you for ransom or something like that.
It’s a couple of Bitcoin it will stop or if it’s like really big it’s probably something on them look anymore.
It’s like a lot of people you know have some interesting or few other people when they do like video game companies people get upset at them, they’ll eat off their servers and basically make their product in excessively.
So it could be fur, ethical reasons they might not like them for that reason they might just not like them for their business decisions or they just want to cause chaos.
But usually, the financial incentive is they’ll hold someone for ransom. That’s the only real financial incentive or maybe their competitor I don’t wanna ruin someone’s brand but I don’t think that that probably doesn’t happen as much.
Tai Zen: Okay so, let’s say for example, like I’m sure there are people in this audience here that they own businesses they own website obviously we own websites ourself and when we get attacked from these hackers and these bad people are trying to slow down the website or ruin our website, like we don’t go out there and try to build a solution to it. Well, what made you pursue that?
Alex: Well, mostly because the pricing on Cloudflare and things like that so if you’re a business and you go for their business plan it starts at $200 a month, and then if you’re you don’t want to buy their enterprise plan which basically gives you one or two more features not really or then maybe a phone and a phone line that you can call that starts at $5,000 a month.
Tai Zen: So basically you had this fitness website you get attacked by these.
Alex: Where our costumers we don’t have
Tai Zen: in colleges a lot of beers okay that’s actually most important. So you were annoyed by this and you didn’t want to be paying $200 a month to $5,000 one.
Alex: Since you like send you a free and versions like that but they’re not free and they must have a whole lot of features that you actually want so they upcharge you very effectively once you want to purchase it.
Tai Zen: And since you are all roommates and you are all computer science students you like pay why we just come with a definite.
Okay, so what pointed you to look at a blockchain-based solution, like what I’m gonna do like Akamai or Cloudflare those companies the main companies are handling that kind of stuff right now, what made you decide to go and use the blockchain?
Marcelo: So I mean one of the mixing of the blockchain is decentralization, we saw all these companies, we say “Hey, What’s the cover that in comment and why are they so expensive?” we say they’re centralized that that’s their vulnerability that’s their knowledge and at this time, so last time last May that’s April that was when the blockchain really started to emerge as a technology that was accessible to everyone, and it’s more accessible to software developers. But making more headlines.
So we had the blockchain and we had decentralization and then we saw that all the solutions were centralized we said well that is the solution.
We can make a decentralized network and we think that will be the game-changer in the industry.
Alex: Mainly there’s just not a lot of competition either so there are a couple of big players and they control a lot of the traffic on the Internet and they can call resourcing a lot of the services on the internet that way.
Okay, and they have the ability at that point they could charge essentially what they want.
Tai Zen: Did you like if it brings together one night to build a solution for this and beat you like drum up a software project. So who should on Apple what would you do the test to see this idea with actually?
Alex: Before we started you know we started writing the paper researcher which I do a lot of research into other solutions work, and so they already kind of rely on decentralization.
So they want to spread the love and that’s their goal but they don’t really do it effectively because you could only purchase so much infrastructure if your company you can only for just so many data centers in the world.
David Fong: Survive their very nature by mining a data center it’s already.
Alex: It’s already similar because you’ve got one spot and you can only buy so many of those around the world before it becomes ridiculous.
Tai Zen: Okay, so please fight to the audience so that they understand. Since they’re not computer science folks like you are, so when you talk about these data centers right so basically.
Let’s just use an example like Amazon because everybody is familiar with Amazon. So let’s just say that I want my website to load faster and be protected right instead of I can host that on one of the Amazon servers correct and that Amazon server is located on each climate, they have a bunch of the new server farms all these massive rooms full of computers and everything and here’s a copy of my website on one of these server farms.
When I let’s say that I live in Dallas and when somebody from New York wants to visit my site, then what Amazon will do is they’ll send me they’ll go to the nearest server farm, that’s New York we have my website in a descendant, right? Now, are there in Los Angeles that we know? Well, so how are you doing it?
Alex: The same sort of way except because rather than going to these data centers which are they might be it might give tendeth on the country. Well you now have is you have more if you refer to them as nodes place you to access content, you can have thousands of them in a country so you can have a lot of dispersion over the entire area.
So you can get to one that might be geographically closer but more importantly topographically closer, so you don’t have to go through fewer hoops to get there. The Internet is a data basically represented as a graph which means you’ve got a lot of bits to go through to get from one place to another and if you can minimize the amount of those that you have to hop through your so latency goes down.
Tai Zen: So the latency means that my website we load up faster before the use?
Alex: Yes, and so one thing that we allow people to do is you can get a node one of these content providers and every Internet service provider you can get them in more data centers.
You can get them in more businesses you can even get them in residential addresses which basically means that you could be accessing the website from someone that’s a mile away from you they could be in your neighborhood.
You might not even have to leave your ISP and so your traffic doesn’t have to go far to get basic basically don’t be departing at the content.
Tai Zen: So the Gladius Technology what you are doing if you’re allowing users we need to be able to access the website can load faster because instead of going a further distance to grab and copy that website now we can just go locally.
In their surrounding area from the more much more description, it’s coming from instead of having a huge server farm. What you’re saying is that Gladius Technology allows people who are not using their computer Internet to rent it out to the network.
Alex: The consequence of that is also that it’s really effective in mitigating denial of service attacks, so these floods of traffic rely on the fact that if they get all of their traffic into the little pipe that goes to your server no one else can get there.
Because there’s just no room that they if you think of it literally like a pipe. If you fill it up with all the malicious traffic you know people trying to do to basically prevent access to your web site very few are able to get it.
And by creating all the surface areas all these places that they have to go through first, you basically create a big funnel and you can filter it out before it ever gets that little pipe biggest ear and server very effectively and so the more surface area you have or more places to go so whoever it is to disable the web site.
Tai Zen: So basically what the designer’s technology does is that is it safe to say that we can look at like lanes of a highway like an interstate highway y’all technology allows for more lanes on the highway so that more traffic.
Alex: Becomes clearer more like emergently, there’s a lot of at some point all of it has to converge into like a look one lane.
If there’s a lot of I guess malicious cars what they are with the analogy and there is but if you have a lot of if you can stop them before they get there your traffic there’ll be. It’ll be much faster to move through the one lane at the end of all those cars are not there.
Marcelo: The lane of the highway allowing just making more pass through, go through makes it faster and reduces traffic as you can say as the volume of moved on the whiteboard back there.
Learn more at https://gladius.io/