Tai zen: Okay so Max and his team guys. Once again guys just full disclosure. We invest in any project that we discussed on our channel. Okay so just assume that I said over and over because of every time I because each of these videos going to be cut in two the separate videos.
Okay, so the Gladius project guys I explained earlier that out of the 1500 Cryptocurrencies out there we divide the Cryptocurrencies into separate buckets. And the bucket that The Gladius project falls into is the distributed computing bucket.
Okay, this is basically where people who have unused computers at home can rent out their hardware their CPU their ram, things like that to any of these projects in the distributed computing bucket. So in this particular Project Gladius. One of the things that we looked at was we have a bias towards young kids who are willing to risk everything to get into the blockchain space.
Okay, we also like the young people who are computer science. People who understand blockchain technology and are willing to forgo their college education to focus on Blockchain Engineering. Okay, so that shows commitment to the project.
In 2014, we interviewed a young kid named Vitalik. You think he was 19 20 years old at that time. In 2014, and I was very impressed with how he spoke to all the other software engineers that were there and to all the other computer science students were there.
So since then, that was a huge win for our team. So we’re always looking for these young computer science students who are looking to change the industry in the tech world using blockchain technology.
Okay, so The Gladius project these guys Max and his team come from the Maryland Washington DC area. And they are the young computer, science students. I think they’re like 19 and 20 none of them are old enough to I buy alcohol yet, right.
So I think that’s what they’re huh their business strategist Jim is there for. I think they bring him around I think you know I think that’s what that’s for I don’t think he does talk a lot of good business strategy and has lots of good plans for them. But secretly I think that’s their supervisor if you know what I’m talking about.
Anyway, they are doing a lot of good stuff in the distributed computing world. They are building this project called Gladius to solve a really nagging problem when it comes to website load speed. The more popular that your website is on the internet, guess what happens you become a target of a DDOS attack.
So I’m a trader our team is full of traders. And one the most nagging problems that we run into in the computing space or the Internet space is when we go to an Exchange and it doesn’t work because they’re being DDOS attack all. And that is really annoying when you’re trying to make a trade and move some money around and you can’t log into your Exchange account.
So anything that solves an obvious problem like that to us we have an interest in. We’re not basically when I say we I should say this about me. You know I’m not one of those Asian guys that are technical enough that’s technical enough to see like all the fancy.
You know the tech blockchain tech stuff up there. The ones I looked at are the ones that pay I see the obvious problem I’m experiencing it myself and who is out there fixing this problem you know. And if it’s somebody if it is a bunch of you know older guys are working on it or a bunch of young computer science students that are working on it.
I tend to favor the younger crowd simply because they don’t care. They’re willing to take the risk, they’re willing to take chances, and they’re willing to break things to fix it and those are the people that I tend to like to invest in. So and that’s just my personal suggestion that’s not to be construed as financial advice or investment advice or recommendation whatsoever.
Just sharing with you guys what I look at. So I think okay alright so I met these guys and one of the things that when we went out there to New York to meet up with them at an event out there. One of the things that I noticed was that most 19 years old right now and 20 years old guess what they’re doing at home.
They’re playing video games in Mom’s basement and they don’t do anything it. So when I met these guys in New York, one of the things that really inspired me you know is because we were in the middle of. We were at this hotel, we met him in the conference in the lobby, and we were chatting everything and just to meet up and we were setting up a time to meet up the following day.
And they said hey man we got to cut it short because we got to go back to coding. And I looked at my watch and was at 12 o’clock at night. Okay, I respect that I respect the fact that you know they’re not lazy they’re willing to work and many times I left my Skype on at 3 or 4 o’clock in the morning.
And I notice that they’re on Skype and I was like to pain people in the middle of the night to see what they’re up to right. And always you know when I ping him at 2:00 3:00 o’clock in the morning when I see him on when I first met these guys. You know and I asked him hey what the hell are you doing up at 2 or 3 o’clock in the morning.
And guess what they’re doing coding as they should be. You don’t say why because they agreed you know there’s a there’s an agreement with the public that they’re using the public’s money to go and build this Gladius project. That’s what I want them doing I don’t even want them to sleep either nothing just go code right.
So I know it’s a little bit harsh but that’s like the Asian approach you know. When my parents wanted us to do nothing but go work make money for him. So I still have that part of me you know.
Okay, so so there’s three of these guys here on the team we got Max up here setting up the computer up here. And then we also have Alex Alex raise your hand right there. These are some sharp computer science guys sharp.
Okay, they saw an opportunity and instead of being scared like a lot of other young kids and set up being you know asking permission. Guess what they did they went out there and they took charge and started working on it. And they’re building this Gladius project.
They have a 13th member named Marcelo. He’s not here at this moment where’s Marcelo away yeah there you go. You know I asked him hey all three of you guys gonna be here, probably not somebody’s got to stay home and code.
And that reminds me I’ve liked the des cred team you know they don’t hype code they write code. We want projects that are busy writing code. I mean it’s okay to come out and talk to the audience about their project stuff but spend the rest of time coding.
Max: So you got it a test.
Tai Zen: So everybody gives a welcome to Max up here guys as he talked about it. I invite you guys to do with these guys. We’re gonna have a recording of this on our site you know. I invite you guys to share especially this video if you guys see a bunch of 19 20-year-olds goofing off and wasting your life.
I want to invite you guys to share this video with them. One of the reasons why I invited them to come down here to share what they’ve been doing to revolutionize the DDOS. The industry is because I am tired of seeing some of these kids at home goofing off.
I came from an Asian background, and my parents cracked the whip on us. We were working I pretty much worked two jobs every day of my life growing up. And I see some of these kids they’re just goofing off doing nothing.
It makes me sick sometimes. That they live in such a great country where there are people starving and not having opportunities as we do in America. And they’re not taking advantage of it.
And these guys here they’re living near Washington DC and the minute they saw this blockchain opportunity jumped on it. And more than just them sharing the blockchain tech, they’re building with Gladius. Is that fitting on the screen correctly?
Okay, one of the things that I want people that are watching at home to see is I want them to be inspired, guys. We need more people like this we need more young people that see opportunities like this in the tech world and take advantage of it. We need people that the blockchain industry is booming.
We need more people to come into this, young people come into this industry. We don’t need more people trying to play sports and do that we need more people doing this. This is what America needs to have a stronger country. We need young people they want to take chances and build new technology to make America great.
I’m not trying to sound like Trump or none but that’s what I believe in. That’s why I came here to America and that’s what I’m here to take it this opportunity we have here. And these guys are definitely you know they’re born and raised in America.
But other people that are out there if you see some 19 years old goofing off and wasting their life away. Please show them this video to see what these 19 20 years old are doing from the DC area. Okay so go ahead, Max.
Max: Thanks, Tai. That’s probably one of the best introductions that I have ever gotten in my life.
Tai Zen: so how many you guys were 19 years old and the public was willing to give you millions of dollars to go build a project to 225 of a DDOS attack. Okay, when you’re 19 years old and you can do those guys you deserve a good introduction. How many of you guys raise your arms if you believe that they deserve a good introduction for being 19 20 year old that can get the public to do that for them.
Okay when I was 19 years old, I was running around and stealing bicycles and goofing off in the project okay. There was nobody that you know I couldn’t get the public to give me a dollar Okay. So the fact that these 19 20 years old guys are out here Right making it happen writing code and providing value to the world I respect that whether they succeed or fail or not.
They’re doing a thousand times better than what I was doing when I was 19 years old okay. So anytime any 19 years old out there. They’re doing what these guys are doing I am going to hype them up. I’m going to talk about it because those are the things that I should have been doing when I was 19.
Instead, I was out there goofing off on the streets okay. So if you guys hear me talk about these guys and just being passionate about it. There’s a reason for that okay, anybody that does stuff like that I’m willing to support I don’t care what the project is.
If you’re 19 years old and you want to go out there and take the risk, get out of college and go build something that you believe in with your classmates, your teammates. And their computer science students see new blockchain technology evolving and they jump on it and take advantage of it. I’m going to support that I don’t care the rest of the world doesn’t but our team is going to support that.
We did that with Vitalik when he was 19. It worked out and we’re here so I’m going to continue supporting young guys that are willing to take chances like that so there you go Max.
Max Niebylski: Thanks again. So as Tai said my name is Max and I am the CEO and one of the co-founders of Gladius. And in a nutshell, what we allow people to do is anyone around the world rent out their unused internet connection and actually monetize it. And in turn, this giant network that we create to be tapped into by any website that exists.
And they can use that network for the one protect against DDOS attack – distributed denial-of-service. And to make a website load much faster I’ll get into each of these little sections as we progressed. So CEO of Gladius, co-founder along with Alex and Marcelo who’s in the back coding – 19 years old so probably one of the youngest people in this room and in most rooms nowadays.
When I’m going to conferences and things like that. But actually I was bitten by the Crypto bug a lot earlier back in 2011. I might my very first Bitcoin which was kind of crazy at the time and looking back on it I kind of regret not keeping any of them so kind of sucks about that.
But yeah I’m also a former computer science student at the University of Maryland so I’m there’s ever since you know early 2011 and even before that. So I’ve always been embraced in that hacker culture than it’s what I’ve started myself with for so many years. And yet again I’ve also been into entrepreneurship from an early age so I hopped from startup to startup.
And I think Gladius is a combination of all the work I’ve been doing and how has been doing too. So what I want to do right now is talk about the key market trends we’ve observed at Gladius. And it really paints a picture of why Gladius is necessary but also why this is the best time for Gladius to emerge.
So this is what the graph looked like back in 2011 when I bought my first Bitcoin or sold my first Bitcoin actually $5.03 on October 1st in 2011. And now that graph looks like that is back 2011 when I sold a Bitcoin I’m in now you know it’s taking off and Cryptocurrencies and blockchain technology in total are gaining so much traction. And there’s a really good reason for it.
So initially when Bitcoin first emerged, it was meant as a competitor to typical currencies like US dollars, Yen, Euros. But really in the past couple of months, we’ve seen an evolution of what Cryptocurrencies actually mean and what they can do. And the team at Gladius and I believe that they that Cryptocurrencies will revolutionize pretty much every industry.
Because of the some of the really cool features that if a theorem and specific and other blockchains have. So, of course, there’s trustless transactions that we’re familiar with and hopefully now. But also one huge thing is a smart contract platform which means that you can create whatever you want on a blockchain.
You could create another Facebook copy, you could create Yahoo, you can create YouTube whatever you want. But you know whether that’s a good idea or not up for question. But you know you can really endless amounts of the possibilities with blockchain technology in general. And also the community aspect of blockchain is really key.
So from a project Inception to you know mid-stage for the most startup, it’s really difficult getting gaining traction in a growing community. But with you know Cryptocurrencies and ICO‘s having an ability to you know have a community that comes together to see the project through from start you know to completion is another huge thing about blockchain and some are contracts.
And another huge thing is the emergence of a sharing economy. So from a show of hands here how many people either use Uber or know someone who uses Uber. So these services allow people to utilize resources that they’re already paid for.
So you already most people already have a car or some people do, some people have houses. And you know for the big portion of the time they’re not being used, they’re sitting in your driveway, they’re empty not being rented. So these services are coming up that allow you to actually monetize these things that you’ve already paid for it and are generally depreciating in value.
So we’re doing the same thing with Gladius. Most people here have an internet connection at home, you know just typical you know Verizon, Centurylink, Comcast things like that. But you know for 8 hours a day you’re you know sleeping 8 hours a day, you’re at work so that’s 16 hours a day.
Where not on that computer or if you’re not on that internet connection which is you know 2/3 of it going to waste and you know you’re paying for 24/7 connection. You know there’s a huge potential if you can tap into this the bandwidth and internet connection to utilize it for good. And that’s what we allow with Gladius.
And some Yeah and so I had a big point here is that when you have a sharing economy it drives prices down. So with Uber, it kind of upended the taxi industry allowing for much better margins. And it allows people to you. know compete better with taxes and whatnot.
And so that’s what we aim to do with the current DDOS protection and CDN Industries. Prices are crazy it can range anywhere from $2,000 a month all the way to millions. I know one of our competitors was offering an ICO deal for $5,000 a month in protection which is kinda insane since you may only be hit once or twice. You shouldn’t be paying for the protection.
You should not be paying for the protection if you’re not being attacked. And that kind of what we allowed as well, and then again at the power of decentralization. So with a decentralized network, it’s a very different paradigm than current solutions to this problem.
So what DDOS mitigation companies do right now is they have these large centralized servers around the world. And if one of these gets taken down, all of the websites under them are greatly affected. Whereas when you have a decentralized network where anyone can create their own protection tool for their own miniature CDN their own miniature protection server.
There could be you know infinitely number of them which really helps with scaling. A big thing also is that the cost for running this serve these large centralized serves is really large. So the power of the cooling space that you know these companies have to pay for is the main cost now because you know the price for computation power and for bandwidth you know decreasing every year.
But the power of or the cost of these other resources the power space is cooling they’re either staying the same or actually increasing. So our idea is that anyone can create their own and use their resources that they already pay for rather than having to create a huge data centers around the world. And then we have the Verizon cybercrime in this is a pretty big topic.
And there’s a cool visualization of what a DDOS attack kind of looks like. But essentially for those who don’t know. DDOS attacks are when a website is bombarded by lots of traffic. So typically websites can handle a certain number of visitors but when does that when that number you know is multiplied 100000 fold that website can’t handle the sheer volume.
And so what happens is that these sites go down, and so as I mentioned a big thing in the Crypto space is you know exchanges they’re getting hit by these attacks. And you know 1 hour down could be millions of dollars so it’s a really real problem. And you know 10 years ago in boardrooms and just companies in general cybercrime were treated as a technical issue.
And I think nowadays people are seeing as these attacks get more and more common in the dollar value of these damages increase that it’s no longer a technical issue, it’s a business issue. So these boardrooms they realize this now and we’ve been talking to many companies that have realized that you know their livelihoods could be you know completely wiped away in a matter of clicks. Another thing about DDOS attacks is also is that they’re really easy to commence.
So anyone with an internet connection can you know pay $5 for taxes, a botnet for you know 30 seconds to hours. So it’s really a matter of like clicks and then you can take on a website which kind of sucks. Yeah and so these are some of the websites that got taken down you know in the past, I’m sure if you had visited these.
And so you know the sites like Netflix if it goes down on, people can’t register, people can’t watch videos they get upset. So both there’s brand damage that you know if Sony or PlayStation that got hit by dozens of DDOS attacks and you know from 2012 onwards and the consumer trust was shaken by what happened. And also, the monetary damages too, and that I’ll have some stats on that I think.
Here Yeah in 2016 there were 300000 DDOS attacks, which is a really big number. I meant for an attack. It was average that each one cost $5,000. So just multiplying that you can see that the total number of damages was over $150,000,000,000. So as I say it’s a really severe impact of these attacks.
And so I’d like to introduce you to Gladius, and so as I said we allow anyone to monetize their unused internet connection at home. And so one cool thing we have is on our website it actually you can calculate a rough approximation of how much you can actually earn. So this example up here I’m not sure if you can see it but it’s estimated that you have a gigabit connection so a dig up and a gig down of connection speeds.
And using it for 16 hours a day as I previously mentioned. And our calculation says that you know it’s utilized 50% of the time all the time. And with that can earn you know $3,300 a month is what we estimated at $0.03 per gig cost which is not bad for you know asset you already paid for.
So you know not only can you pay off your internet bill you can actually make more money on top of it which is really cool. Yeah so obviously you can you’re protecting websites against DDOS attacks. And I can I’ll go a bit into how that actually works.
So the actual protection of websites isn’t done on the blockchain, the blockchain is used as a facilitator for this open marketplace we’re creating. So anyone on this Marketplace can you know say hey I want to serve a certain geographic area I want to serve certain clients I want to do this I want to do that.
They can set their own parameters they can set their own prices, they can set percentages that they take versus what they’re the people renting the bandwidth under them take really open marketplace that is promoting the really open economy.
And so with this marketplace, this is on a blockchain. It allows for a reputation system with all of the people to ensure that if you know someone starts changing traffic, caught early on and can be marked as a reputation negative. And pools can see these issues. And that the actual protection part is a piece of software we’ve been creating that runs on a computer, it can run on a server can run on a laptop potentially working on many platforms physically possible to do this.
And so that I won’t go too much into the technical details because there’s a lot and Alex knows a lot more about that than me. But Yeah and so as well so it does content Tillery as well. So that’s kind of side effect of how the platforms are built the DDOS and you didn’t kind of going hand-in-hand. Because you’re creating all of these decentralized notes across the world, contact can be stored in each of these.
And what’s really cool about this is that as time goes on your files and movies are getting bigger and bigger. It started with ADP videos now it’s going to 4K seems gonna be 8K 16K just can get bigger and bigger. So when we create this CDN content delivery network. We can be much closer geographically to the consumers of this media.
Meaning that you know if you are in Texas and you want to visit a site in China, for example, you might be paying a server in California. Whereas with Gladius you could potentially get that content from your next-door neighbor. So they could be hosting the files and the media you’re trying to get which means that the load speeds are actually much faster because data travel through the internet lines.
So a bit more about us as a company, we were founded in April 2017 and the other two are Co-founders and actually started out of our dorm room at the time which was just kind of cool. But after you know the community took us up and saw the potential before we’re doing. We outgrew that space relatively quickly and now based in Washington DC.
And as I’ve talked about our main focuses are both DDOS mitigation and content acceleration and delivery. On the market sizes, DDOS is a really big issue as many of you probably experienced with the exchanges and whatever. It’s predicted to be 2.2 billion by 2021 which was pretty big and there are no real signs of slowing down.
I mean content delivery also, it’s estimated to be $30.900.000.000 so it’s much much larger. But I think we had Gladius, we believe that these two issues are kind of complementary and when we can tackle 1 can tackle both and solve 2 issues at the same time. And so our software is the fully open source where we’re really pushing for our community to help us learn to add what they want into the experiment.
And so back in October of this year of the past of this 2017, we released our first Alpha. And since then we’ve been a lot of work on that we’ve had community numbers you know pitch ideas ask questions to test it out. So we’ve been getting a really good amount of feedback.
And yeah so multiplatform and so you know Windows, Max, Linux anything you can have an internet connection too. We want eventually to be able to tap into. So some long-term goals would be like you know mobile phones, Raspberry Pi is really low-cost hardware that you already have, that you can put to use some you know to earn money for yourself.
And then we’re also based on the Ethereum blockchain so our token is used for both payments for the services. So if you are on a website you want to get this paying in Gladius tokens. And then if you’re a user who’s giving bandwidth you get paid in those tokens.
And you can also you know you have to stick tokens to become pools to have used under you. Some pools would require people to take tokens and so it’s a really important function of our platform. So as I mention the Alpha was available in October, and now we’re pushing for our beta release in this March.
And we’ve already partnered with several websites who have committed to using our DDOS mitigation and CN services. So when we hit the Beta release we’re going to be rolling absolutely to them, drawing our the community size of nodes to make sure we have enough infrastructure to support larger sites. And then in August, we’re planning on having the full-scale release, so by then anyone can you know anyone can visit our website can use our services.
Yeah so right now we’re about 30 full-time and contract employees and a lot of them are developers but also you know really good lawyers really good marketers, etc. And have bunch different advisors our token we raised around well as 12.5 million but ether went up, and now it’s around 20 million. And the token becomes available February 14th which is a pretty good Valentine’s Day gift for some people I guess.
Finally, I just wanted to run through some of the key use cases that we came up with at Gladius. The first one is what I’ve been talking about it’s the individual sharing economy so this is when you know individuals have the bandwidth they can rent it out to whoever wants it. But also, for the theme of the conference, there are small and medium-sized businesses so a lot of businesses like individuals have unused computers and internet action that they pay a lot of money for.
And normally these interactions or actually much much better than home connection sew-in. Consequently, they can know to earn more tokens from a meeting at accent I can see the end large-scale enterprises the same thing they use these computers that have. Are you going to sing around you know during the night?
Also, another big thing we’ve been promoting on our are communities of interest. So for example, if you run an exchange example you can find other people run exchanges and say “hey how do we get our users all on the Gladius platform to be getting their bandwidth specifically for our cause. And so we’ve been talking to a lot of different communities the financial industry is also another big one.
On Wall Street a lot of NASDAQ Goldman Sachs a lot of your companies. They experienced DDOS attacks heavily, and so if they can all pull together and use their own computers that they have in their offices. And say hey if you can protect us, I will protect you.
Another powerful thing that we’ve been seeing a lot of them interesting as well, and then there’s the core cutter prevention. So nowadays, cable companies and internet service providers are seeing at the decrease in the customers just because of rising prices. But with this, we’re offering a way to potentially partner with these on ISPs and service providers to have a complimentary service that could run either on a customer’s computer on the router.
Being that you know we could say hey if you can say hey if you run this software you get a certain amount of your bill each month. Which is a really good way of engaging ISPs and providers with their customers, and improving retention. And then the next two are about the data centers.
The first one is about zombie computers in these data centers. So typically in a data center, about 30% of the computers are just sitting there idle and essentially they’re a zombie. So Gladius can do is we can offer these data centers alternate source of revenue. So you know all this computer is already paying for you have space cooling power why not put them into use.
This is an alternate revenue model for them to know be doing on the side of which is really cool. But also let’s say someone’s building a new data center as soon as they build it they’re not going to have it completely fulfilled. So it’s a lot of upfront costs that they have to put in hopes that you know that the business in the future.
What we’re saying is hey download our software protects against attacks act as a CDN node. And you can you know put your hard work to good use, so you know they don’t have to bring that full-time, and if they find that uses for their you know computers that’s great. But you know it’s an option for them to you know put some of the upfront cost building these data centers.
And then nation-state protection so because our software completely decentralized we can have DDOS protection nodes in key locations so either by are transatlantic cables or any key locations that governments think are important to have like a really close connection to they can do that with this.
And finally, for people who are more technically minded, there’s also chord and heard part of utilization. Which is a hardware that is typically using data centers that have a certain application on them and so we’re saying hey if you already have these, you could you know to load our software on to it and have it as another application?
Overall really cool different applications and uses for a Gladius. I want to show you the video I’m not sure where it went but it pretty cool demo that I will show our overview. That’s the website by the way so if you want to visit Gladius Tayo. Also, there’s no sound I’m gonna play the microphone so hopefully not too bad.
DEMO: the distributed denial-of-service attacks are a security nightmare, every year we see a dramatic rise in DDOS attacks. Why? Because unlike other hacking techniques, DDOS attacks are relatively simple yet devastating, DDOS attacks doodles are widely available so even an unskilled hacker can bring down a website to protect against these types of attacks. DDOS mitigation solutions attempt to sort of bad traffic from the good.
Though these may be viable solutions they have been shown to sometimes filter out the good traffic and allow bad traffic to flow through. Another approach is to decentralize the site’s delivery making the attacks ineffective or much more complicated. Although these approaches relatively effective commercial content delivery networks are extremely expensive and without proper protection they remain potentially vulnerable to some of the most sophisticated DDOS attacks
But what if you can have a decentralized delivery network that features a DDOS mitigation technology. And it’s available at an affordable cause, meet Gladius, Gladius combines peer-to-peer PETA’s DDOS protection and Ethereum Blockchain Technologies to form the ultimate content delivery and DDOS protection network. Gladius offers a faster content delivery and increases protection at an affordable cost let’s see how it works.
Individuals from around the world will download the Gladius desktop client and start renting up their unused bandwidth and computation power to earn Gladius tokens that are worth money. And instead of paying huge CDN and security subscription fee. Websites can tap into these pools of users to make their site load faster and become resilient to DDOS attacks itself.
The unused bandwidth becomes the currency to empower security and speed through the internet by creating localized pools of independent nodes and the site can cache their content close to users. When a site is under attack these requests are routed to many unique nodes that will individually excrete and verify to let only trusted connections in and leave bad ones out. It’s a win for everyone.
Individuals can make money from their unused bandwidth while website owners can both accelerate and safeguard their website by leveraging the power of a global decentralized network community. Gladius is revolutionizing the world of content delivery and cyber security join the revolution.
Max Niebylski: And that’s Gladius I think we have time for questions. Tai Cool
Tai Zen: Hey could you pull up your website or the yeah.
Questioner 1: So you’re aware of Krebs on security when they got hidden 2016 with them riot botnet right. So Cloudflare actually dropped them and then they had to go with google and in their free journalist platform. How are you competing against CloudFlare if they’re not even able to support that traffic with the largest button that ever created?
Max Niebylski: yeah definitely so with Cloudflare on being centralized, they can only have so much hardware and capacity whereas you know as you stated it could be taken down with the Murat Bonet with Gladius. So it’s pretty much scalable so you know as we see more and more people joining the network will get large enough to actually handle these types of attacks.
And so no pools can spill over the bandwidth to other pools. Initially, obviously we can’t handle that much traffic, but you know as time passes and you have more people joining the platform we’re hoping that we can you know handle these sessions of attacks.
Questioner 1: And that actually leads me to my next question so your software is open source right. What if someone reverse-engineers it to create their own bonet on your own software.
Max Niebylski: I think Alex wants to answer some of these.
Alex: Yeah so the way that it works is you know it’s a DNS, everyone can hear me. Cool! It’s DNS right so it’s pretty hard to setup your own botnet independently they they’re not really reverse engineering it either the codes open source in public. They wouldn’t be able to get access to people’s computers because you know you have to do a smart contract function to sell your resources that way.
So it’s a little bit more challenging, you have to convince people to join your pool and you’d have to actually pay them it’d probably be significantly more expensive than just hacking people’s computers.
Questioner 1: Even if someone was able to impact it via browser they wouldn’t able to get in and.
Alex: Do you mean via the computer I mean they could but they wouldn’t have access to other nodes. So just be the same way as going after regular computers through a drive-by or something.
Questioner 1: Okay and then when these botnets or these DDOS attacks when they’re happening. Does the consumer price for that go up in terms of their network use or does their internet bandwidth decrease during these attacks.
Alex: so they’re bent their actual available bandwidth. Yeah, so the maximum that they set would be there would be the limit that would be sent over. So you do encourage certain risk by signing off that if someone does that attack your IP address that point public information. So when someone visits they could actually just choose to take you out as a note.
But the idea is that there’s so many it would be great that would be very it wouldn’t be a great decision on their part, it wouldn’t be very effective.
Questioner 1: Now as an ISP is that going to be a problem because if I see tons of traffic coming in I’m going to start blocking that.
Alex: This may actually help that you may help our cause. But you know one of the use cases I think will be really powerful will be business as well. So you know they have SLA with their they’re already allowed to have this much traffic or Colo spaces or data centers will be a really good fit for this sort of stuff that already has you know a little bit of preparation for that.
Residential traffic will be awesome for certain types of implications if you want content delivery you want to focus on that more than the denial of service production. I think that’ll be really good for residential connections but I think business connections and that sort of stuff will be more heavily focused on denial of service protection.
Questioner 1: Then actually the man to my final question. So the protection for data centers are they putting it on a partitioned device?
Alex: They could be putting it on your virtual machine, they could be opening docker containers. Right now, we support docker in our Alpha, they could be putting it on separate hardware it’s pretty flexible and what they want to they could run it on.
Questioner 1: Okay but they probably wouldn’t be able to run that concurrently with proprietary information that they’re staring at the data center right?
Alex: It depends on what they’re storing and I mean it depends on what machines are running out on. If you know you got to throw away boxes are you really good at virtualizing but I don’t think they would have a hard time running it there. But it depends on their security practices
Questioner 1: Okay. Thanks though.
Alex: Okay what’s your background?
Questioner 1: Lots of thanks
Tai Zen: Okay so this reminds me of the reason why I asked that because this kind of reminds me of that the same conversation I witnessed when I was interviewing Vitalik back in 2014. I mean that was a very technical conversation going between him and other software engineers, and he was able to handle the questions and able to address all the questions at the other software engineers. We’re able to put out.
So that was what impresses me about what he was doing back in 2014 when we first met Vitalik. Okay, any other question for the Gladius team.
Questioner 2: Thanks for the presentation and so lets I’m a host I’m trying to host you know Gladius as one of the nodes or something. And typically you know ISP providers whoever to provide the internet. Maybe after you read some cap of downloading their internet at all at a certain point.
Would you think that the internet speed goes down that you know is a user who hosts Gladius I myself being yeah you know having poor internet on mine after setting the limit like you know cell phone providers do that?
Alex: But yeah I’m so I mean this wouldn’t be for everyone if you’ve got a 100 Gigabyte data cap I wouldn’t recommend it because you might eat that up pretty quickly. But there are a lot of people with unlimited connections in the US, especially or you know symmetrical fibers awesome that’s being rolled out everywhere. Or if you’re an ISP you can put this on a router takes them off their bill and that’s something you’re prepared to foot the bill for anyway.
You’ve built out the infrastructure and that could be done without much consequence to the user. Or you know you can have certainly you know Max had that graph up I there that calculator up there, you could have certain away hours. Right, so you could have hours you know you’re pretty much not going to be at your house where you could sacrifice your net connection.
And then you know when you’re prime Netflix time comes around you could disable it.
Max Niebylski: So you know we’ve also you know already have been having these conversations with like Tier 1 ISPs, the Verizon, Centurylink, Comcast of the world. And they all seem fairly reciprocated of the idea. Luckily, I’m very conscious that might be a touchy subject but we’ve have been having conversations.
Questioner 2: You guys got quite a market to tackle you know you got you to know you’ve got the CNN’s and the big names neighbors and then, of course, my neighbors and myself coming from a marketing standpoint. And I’ve not seen a lot of the struggle with some of these new ICO’s and a new company such as yourself. How do you plan on marketing? Your business moving forward.
Alex: Sure I mean I think it’s a pretty easy sell for the individual you don’t make money off your internet connection when you’re not at home. We got like 8,000 users in our telegram lot of people ready to beta test so that that side isn’t too hard. And we actually have some partners um if scroll down.
But what are actually ready in March to come on board with us so they’ve got to know various publication. Yeah so various publications things like that that are actually you ready to help you ready to actually help test out Gladius and use it and that’s really our strategy in terms of you not getting people involved with the platform you know just demonstrating it works pretty well.
Oh Jim’s question
Jim: I don’t have any questions, he asked me to jump in real quick. So I think in the marketing standpoint you know it’s just a little bit you from the individual perspective I think it’s almost self-explanatory why you’d want to join. But we’re going to focus on four key particles coming out the gate.
Because you clearly we’re a smaller team and you only have so many resources but at least it is committed to Tier 1 service providers we were like was just alluded to. We already talking to a few of them. On top of that, it’ll be the cable providers like the Comcast’s of folks along those lines. The next line would be the folks that are in probably financial services if you will from a large scale enterprise perspective really focused on exchanges.
So there’s a lot of interest from the community of interest standpoint to be able to do protection of exchanges. And we touched on but earlier we’re not only to those communities themselves have an interest in protecting themselves. But the individuals who are actually using those services I want to make sure they always have continuous access to the exchanges, always have access to the exchanges.
So there’s a groundswell that’s starting from even the client base of the folks that are part of those community themselves right. Later, we will move into more of the or the Intel space, I’m gonna start helping out more from an agency perspective or DOD perspective.
You asked a couple of good questions you go, I was going to jump up and shine in. One of the things that’s important to note is the person who basically launches the master node and creates the pool will dictate the terms right. So inevitably you as the nodes join you can have communities of interest that have basically different contracts that be associated with them.
So there’s a way to segment a lot of that right away right. I’m trying to think back to a couple of the questions that you have it maybe you and I can sync up, I’m a little bit after this. Because we can probably jump into details for sure.
Question 3: This is just a real simple question but I’m thinking okay so if the demand for two host websites stuff like that. Is there going to be a ratio for? Okay maybe there’s too many too much websites traffic that’s the need that needs to be hosted in not enough hardware being supplied, would that ever be an issue?
Alex: Yeah but such a marketplace right so if you know if a pool couldn’t support that much traffic you know they have an incentive to not do that. Because they would service would be degraded for other people in the pool can delegate say Okay we’re capped out.
Yeah, they don’t have to accept everyone it’s like an application process to sign up you actually stuff gets enCrypted off-chain and then sent over a smart contract function they can deCrypt it and get some information about you. Your website name DNS records that sort of stuff and then they can update their own infrastructure if they think they want to actually have you on the board as a client.
Question 3: Okay sounds good thanks.
Alex: Couple back there
Stephen Hill: So one of the interesting challenges in these networks we look at stuff like this doing datacasting in the media space vacuum back in their early 2000s. Is whether the cable operator really actually has the bandwidth you perceive they have? Because when you look at the actual layout of a cable architecture network they’re already taking advantage of the fact those nodes that the endpoints aren’t consuming a level of bandwidth.
That they’re supposed to know that they claim to be servicing. So if you go into a neighborhood, and you try and service you know I give it gigabit-per-second out of more than a few homes at the same time the bandwidth just doesn’t exist. And so the underlying premise works great at the beginning but on the scale the network spy you probably shut you off because they’re not interested in having $3,000 worth of bandwidth generated of a home value connection.
Jim: Yeah so there’s no doubt about it right but one of the things that are really interesting right now. We talked about it super briefly, we can get into a lot of technical details all day but cable companies we are architecting in their networks today you’re really constrained by the limitations of coax and in distance limitations things along those lines.
In a lot of cases, it’s either being replaced by fiber, at least fiber-to-the-home in some cases like Verizon is a great example of that right. Google Fiber is a great example. There are some locales for like AT&T that are okay with that. And if you start looking at looks like Comcast they do at least fiber to the head end and either coax you to know out to the home in some case are even going deeper.
One of the projects is up that they were called heard HEARD and you guys can go look that up it’s called head and re-architect as a data center and the ideas is to basically roll out a whole bunch of commodity hardware out to the head ends at a minimum and then just basically service these other locales. Just using basically virtual machines that have all the software that is based on them.
But inevitably they’re being added more bandwidth out to each one of the individual homes. Because they’re looking to move some of that functionality out either onto set-top boxes like somebody else earlier was alluding to or even to the home routers. So more and more capacity is being added out to each individual user every day.
But the one constraint that you’re alluding to is there are some providers that are out there that’ll provide you a symmetrical connection both up and down so if you have a gigabit up you might have a gigabit down right. Those are like perfect situations for locations like this right. The flipside you gonna has something to have asymmetric connect.
And asymmetric connection where you’ll have a download speed that is much higher than your upload speed right. Those would be less conducive to making as much money in one of these situations right. Now the flip side which we haven’t really talked about is you may have somebody that actually provides fiber out to the home that you only pay for a 50 mega 50 you know bag down connection as an example.
But the line itself is capable of far more than that. So inevitably have to two edges of the sword if you want to call it here right. The individual consumer may want to run a node from their own computer on their desktop or you may have an internet service provider who wants to run a virtual machine on your home router and whenever access capacity that’s on that or bandwidth is available to that line.
You may never take a hit on your internet connection even if that particular routers being used. Do they could have carved out two VLANs one for you and one for the home router itself that it just runs the Gladius node and they would be monetizing basic the ability to offset an attack or help mitigate it by increasing their surface area as broadly as they possibly could, right.
There’s a couple of ways to play that it really depends on the individual company how they’ve architected their network, how they connect the individual user. And you know what their intent is to do this as well.
Stephen Hill: If you engage with any of the ISPs on that sort of architectural Procat model today because it strikes me that. Unless the Community Network like a college campus would be a great example of where you have enterprise Wi-Fi on campus where if you ran a CDN within the campus network you have a lot of peer-to-peer performance would be really quite incredible.
But you get into a neighborhood it’s interesting to see whether the neighborhood is actually serving each other or make sense to actually move that content the CDN up into the head end.
Jim: Yeah definitely hierarchical you’ll have either you know the content that resides you know within an individual unit home right. It could be at the head end or could be actually fulfilled from a data center. Work could be fulfilled somewhere far more centralized in it in a different location altogether right.
But all these networks are built hierarchically where different things are placed. It just depends on when the traffic patterns traffic demands go. One thing is driving more content out to the edges with the advent of like virtual reality and augmented reality you can’t quite service customers the same way because the customer experience isn’t very good.
So a great example of a project that’s out there I mean is a tip which was run by Facebook which the Telecom infra project in the idea behind that was as they were doing their own testing for AR & VR related applications. You couldn’t serve the content from somewhere like in the middle of the country out to the edge of the country.
So you’re seeing a data centers and data center like content is being pushed further and further out to the edge to make sure you’re not seeing you jittery video and you’re not having your applications lock up as you try to use them cuz they know if that starts to happen don’t ever get the user demand that they want or the market penetration for their applications.
So more and more content more and more bandwidth more and more stuff is moving out to the edge. And it’ll have to be facilitated in somewhere.
Stephen Hill: So one last question how are you addressing the content integrity side so that I don’t have replacement contact within the aspects of the network is one of the interesting challenges in those devices.
Alex: Yeah sure so there’s a couple of ways you can architect that you can either have you know the node sitting as content sources and then you can inject stuff into the browser from a master node perspective that can verify the hash of the file. Or if you’re sitting at the edge you can do some sort of consensus verification which is what we’re working on now where nodes check in on other nodes.
And because we use the blockchain as the communication protocol they really don’t know the IP addresses of other nodes in the network. So they can’t differentiate that from regular content and then are from regular traffic rather.
And then by doing some sort of consensus protocol that way you can actually verify that they’re likely serving the correct traffic, and then also by having economic incentives when a node signs up you know by staking something.
Some non-trivial, not a Gladius tokens you’ve actually given them an incentive to do the right thing that way as well.
Questioner 5: I have a question now that I’ve actually seen you guys present this and I have 5 seconds to think about it. Can somebody talk through the SSL nightmare that’s going on here?
Questioner 5: How do you know ferry in and out IP addresses that are now part of that domain right where’s that how it works.
Alex: Do you mean oh you’re talking about the SSL stuff. It’s a little bit more challenging you can update those relatively quickly but it’s obvious why there’s an application process when you sign up on the blockchain. Because you can’t just have nodes keep continually coming online so semi-manual.
Questioner 5: So as once you become part of the pool when you sign up that answer the question.
Alex: Great. Anyone else has any questions. It will be well will be around for a couple more hours so.